While browsing through TED I came across an interesting talk titled “The Visual Magic of Comics”, by Scott McCloud, an American cartoonist who is better known for his nonfiction books about comics. Among the topics he touched on was his categorization of different types of art. McCloud calls it the “four tribes of art”, which can be applied to any medium of art including music, literature, film, and manga.
As the label suggests, there are four groups in McCloud’s classification. The first group of artists are called animists. This group is best characterized by their devotion to transparency of content. They emphasize the substance that comprises their works. The second group, classicists, are devoted to beauty and craft. They seek to perfect the composition of their art, and this goal remains priority above all on their list. The third group, iconoclasts, are devoted to the truth and nothing else. They seek to portray the human experience as it is, as raw as it can be in its truest form. They are couriers carrying authentic messages of the human condition. Last but not least, the formalists are distinguished from the others in their love for experimenting with their art. They are devoted to form, which includes details of style and technique in their art and those of others.
It is important at this point to clarify that no artist can be described as being only “classicist” or only “animist”. This classification is useful because it allows us to identify qualities that every artist possesses, only in different proportions. Needless to say these proportions are what make each artist unique.
With my newly acquired awareness of McCloud’s four tribes of art, I couldn’t help classifying every manga that crossed my mind. For most shonen manga such as One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach, the authors seem to have equal proportions of animist and classicist qualities. Although the plot is crucial, as it is in every story telling medium, because manga is a visual medium its art is equally important, especially because it lays out the world the reader comes into contact with.
With certain seinen manga such as Berserk, I see more of the classicist qualities. The artwork is beautiful, and you can immediately appreciate the amount of effort that must have went in the process of drawing each chapter. The iconoclast qualities of devotion to the truth is also more prevalent in the genre of seinen manga, such as one of my most favorite works, Monster by Urasawa Naoki.
Formalist qualities are very hard to see in manga. Many prominent manga authors have experimented with their technique and developed a style of their own, but in many of the mainstream manga that dominate the markets today, art styles have become standardized. It would be more interesting to see more experimentation on the market, because it is something that has become all too rare.
Scott McCloud’s classification of art gives us a great way to think about manga. Can you identify your favorite works as having the qualities of one or more of these tribes of art? I would love to hear about everyone’s opinions.
Note: This blog post was devised and written by Brian.
Every long-running manga generally develops a formula. It is a dreaded, yet sometimes necessary tactic for lengthening a manga. Some mangaka rely too heavily on the formula, and it makes the story stagnant. Others figure out how to keep it exciting, even if the reader knows the general formula. Below are some of the formulas I have noticed in the Big 3, plus a note on DBZ and HxH.
Bleach: Fight a super-strong enemy, and right when things look really bad, get a mega boost and overpower them. Get the enemy against the ropes, only for the enemy to reveal they were hiding their true power all along. Hero gets beaten nearly to death (but you are made to think they are dead). Then another hero (who just got a power boost from secret training) saves the day. Rinse repeat, and nobody but the bad guys die.
Naruto: Present an enemy. That's not your real enemy, but you won't know that until you defeat the decoy. Use team effort to defeat the decoy. Sometime between defeating the decoy and defeating the true enemy, everyone else gets overpowered and they put their trust in Naruto. Naruto has beefed up sometime before the final battle, and OP-Naruto saves the day.
One Piece: The Strawhat Crew is going somewhere, but ADD Luffy gets distracted and decides to do a side mission. The crew eventually splits up (Zoro always gets lost, Sanji always gets distracted by a girl). All of the crew fight someone of greater strength and just barely manage to win. They move on to the next place, slightly stronger, and with a bigger bounty on their hands. (They may or may not have picked up a crew member.)
Hunter x Hunter / Dragonball Z: You fight. You get defeated. You train. You get stronger. Some people die. You fight again. You win. (One story is severely more complex than the other though.)
Do you agree with the assessment, or have you found a formula of your own, maybe for a different series? What are your favorite and / or most despised formulas? What do you think about formulas in general? A necessary evil? Did you spot any exceptions to the listed formulas above?
Note: This blog post was devised and written by bijun.
I want to thank all those of you who submitted an article for the blog. Sadly, out of the 53 we got so far, we can only post one at a time. We got a few pretty good ones and an even bigger number of articles that have great ideas in them but need some rewriting and sometimes shifting of focus to make them work. There's also quite a bunch that won't make it on the site, mostly for the same simple reasons, which I'd like to mention here so a) the same mistakes hopefully won't be done again and b) you'll understand our reasons better, which I feel we owe to all of you who put in an effort writing these up.
Most of the articles that we won't be putting up were still a fun read. They were, but they didn't provide much of a basis to discuss anything further. In fact, that's the main issue with most of them. Neglecting the discussion aspect is a big problem, we don't want to just provide a platform for stating opinions.
Also we're not going to put up reviews. Neither reviews of (non-mainstream) manga, nor chapter reviews. For chapter reviews, you got discussion threads at the end of each chapter and for manga... well, we might have a special and post one or two of those, but not right now, not while we have plenty of material that we know people will definitely be interested in talking about.
There were a few that were just way too short, or not thought out at all, but fortunately, they were the exception. In general, I'm pretty happy with what we got and I thoroughly enjoyed reading them all.
The submission for blog topics is still open and will stay so until further notice. If you're interested, check out this blog post explaining all the details: http://mangastream.com/blog/39
And since I've been all big on encouraging you to concentrate on asking questions in this blog post, I've also got one for you: Would it really bother you not knowing whether your submission will be posted eventually or whether it's just been sorted out for one of the reasons stated above?
Three thoughts from me on that: Emailing everyone back is a pain in the neck when I also have lots of other tasks here, like working on the manga every week. Not a big fan of template-emails, I still treat emails as something personal and would rather keep it that way. And finally, for a number of them I just don't know yet - there are quite a few with very similar topics and eventually one will probably be chosen; and it also depends on how many and what kind of quality submissions we get in the future - there are factors involved that make it hard to tell for many of them.
So, truth be told, I've been running out of ideas for blog entries lately. No surprise there really, I barely manage to squeeze out any at all in between working on various series. Could really need some help with that, so I figured I'd ask our community; in other words - you lovely lot.
Some organizational things first, or general things to consider:
If the above didn't scare you off, feel free to email your blog post article to -- smokybarrettms (at) gmail (dot) com -- please put 'blog post' in the title of your email so it doesn't land in the spam folder. Also don't forget to give your article a title.
And I probably shouldn't have to say this but before anyone asks - of course we'll give credit where credit is due. You'll be clearly stated as the author of the post, just let us know which moniker you want to go by.
It's that time again! We're looking to add a few more people to the team, mainly people who can help with Jump (because soon we'll be working on five Jump series and that's... a lot). That means we need people who can be available for a few hours any time between 6:30am GMT to 3:00pm GMT every week on Wednesday. The two main positions we're looking to fill are:
Redrawers - are probably the highest demand right now. Feel free to download the test and give it a try even if you have no experience because we're likely to offer you some training either way - redrawing mainly needs a good eye for detail. The main thing to aim for, when you remove the overlay text, is a seamless transition between your art and the mangaka's.
Test: Download this file, redraw the page and send it to: smokybarrettms (at) gmail (dot) com
Typesetters - this one you really do need some previous experience for because training people from scratch takes a huge amount of time and effort. You do not need to use any particular fonts, just go for something simple. We'll be judging based on shapes and sizes for now.
Test: Download this file, typeset all four pages and send them to: smokybarrettms (at) gmail (dot) com
Feel free to tell me a little bit about yourself and any relevant experience you may have; things like timezone and schedule are fairly essential for me to know. We very much appreciate everyone who takes the time to apply so thank you!
Oh and, exceptional editors are always welcome too - if you want to apply as a cleaner, just send me an email.
Imagine your favorite mangaka calls you up and asks you for your help. He's wrapping up his current series and really needs ideas for his next manga. What would you suggest?
I'm really interested in hearing some of your story ideas, I love reading short plot-overviews, and it's fun to find out what kind of stories all of you would write, what you all are into. Maybe there's some kind of plot idea that you've been spinning in your head for years?
Are there plots or certain kinds of characters that you feel are too rare in mainstream series and if they are present for once, they are done really badly and you'd write them completely differently?
But also, are there any aspects about shonen manga that you feel are really overused and you'd make a great effort avoiding them?
Looking forward to your ideas!
As the title says, what's your favorite sports series? My personal top three are;
1. Hajime no Ippo
2. Captain Tsubasa
3. Eyeshield 21
Now, don't judge me on Captain Tsubasa, I was little so the series holds nostalgic value. Ippo I discovered pretty late, but it's my favorite sports series by far. Heck, it's probably among my top three series of all times.
What is it that makes a sports series more enjoyable than others? Honestly, the part I enjoy most is humor; somehow sports series simply sem to have a lot more room that you can fill with jokes and Takamura-moments. One thing I don't enjoy? Dragged out scenes. You know what I'm talking about if you also read Ippo. On the other hand, they don't seem all that bad when you read a big amount of chapters in one go instead of following it weekly. And if you really want to experience dragged out scenes, read one of them football/soccer mangas like Captain Tsubasa, where the field appears to be several kilometers long in each direction and they just keep running and running and running and running and...
Now I lost my train of thought. Not that really ever had one - oh yeah, I was saying, or rather asking - which are your favorite sports series, and what is it about them that makes them so special to you? Let me know in the comments!
I've been going through some old favorites of mine and wondered what they'd be like if they continued until today. Series like Psyren come to mind, which sadly got cancelled too early and still felt like it had a lot of potential to explore. Though series that ran for ages but eventually ended, like Dragon Ball, are also interesting to think about.
So here's some questions to ponder about:
Personally, Psyren and Gantz are two series I'd have really liked to see for a while longer. And I'd like to mention Berserk and Hunter x Hunter here too... while they haven't officially ended, their mini- and maxi-hiatuses are as bad if not worse, imo. T_T
Been a while since the last blog post, huh? Well, I've been busy reading and re-reading quite a few books and studying the representation of protagonists and antagonists, mainly. Which made me think of characters in manga and leads me to this question: Who are your favorite lead characters, and who are your favorite bad guys?
Personally, I can't help but say Goku, first. The archetype of typical shonen manga protagonist - a glutton, a tad slow, a guy who can make friends out of enemies and improves every time he fights a stronger enemy to match their strength.
And then there's the classics, Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop, Alucard from Hellsing, Mugen from Samurai Champloo - I could go on and you'd keep noticing how they're mostly seinen series. Though before I move on to the bad guys, as a sort of lead-over I have to mention my favorite character - Takamura (from Hajime no Ippo), for sure.
So, bad guys. Vegeta anyone? Killing your pal and one of the last 3 (known) survivors of your race because he can't beat someone who's obviously stronger than him? Pretty evil, in a good way.
In fact, let me stop here and let you carry on, I'm more curious of who you can think of and I'll probably use your comments to re-read or re-watch a series or two. :)
I've been re-reading a bunch of the old mangas on my shelf and had this question on my mind that I wanted to ask you all. What kind of arcs are your favorite?
Personally, I'm really into tournaments. Really, really into it. Think of the Tenkaichi Bukokai tournaments in Dragon Ball, especially the first 3, where Jackie Chun, Tenshinhan and, finally, Goku win - in that order. Or the Hunter exam, in Hunter x Hunter - and the Greed Island arc, which was a sort-of tournament, too.
The Chunin exam was also easily one of my favorite arcs in Naruto and the recent arc in One Piece is pretty awesome too, imho. Though One Piece is a whole different story; it basically felt like a tournament-kind of thing this entire time - they move from island to island, fighting new enemies on each one of them. Plus you get changes in setting the entire time, which makes it particularly interesting.
In general though, I seem to much prefer the beginning of a series rather than when it gets to the final fights and climaxes. The first half of Naruto for example was just a lot more enjoyable (when they were actually sort of fighting like ninjas
with superpowers) than the stuff we got now where they are so close to firing kamehameha's and destroying the whole planet, Freeza-style.
Does anyone else feel like that? What kind of arcs are your favorite - or are there any particular arcs that are your all-time favorites?
Don't say the Golden Age arc in Berserk, that one's too obvious.
Which of the three devil fruit classes is superior to the others?
I've been rewatching One Piece recently, really appreciating Oda's creativity in coming up with all those unique devil fruits - particularly in the Paramecia class. So I've got two questions on my mind that I wanted to ask you all; which of the three classes do you think is 'the strongest', and which new devil fruit powers can you come up with?
Personally, I have a hard time making up my mind. Clearly Logia seem the most overpowered at first and they definitely were for the first half imo, before the whole Haki concept got introduced and relativized a lot of their strengths. Until that point I was always wondering how Luffy would ever be able to fight Smoker on equal footing.
But then Vergo showed us that not only can Smoker be hit, his ability is actually a weakness - turning into smoke meant there was more area that can potentially be targeted. Is Logia then only useful against enemies who don't have any Busoshoku Haki, or a weaker one than the Logia user? We're talking about how useful it is in a fight here, since Aokiji's turning an ocean into ice is clearly pretty damn useful any time.
Anyway, then we have the Zoan type. When the different types were introduced I was quick to
misjudge that it was the weakest of the three, but not I'm not so sure anymore. The usefulness of the transformations aside, the biggest benefit I see is their increase in physical strength. I mean, imagine Luffy having a Zoan, and turning into a mountain of muscle - or how it would enhance Zoro's strength? Part of why Rob Lucci was so damn strong was because he could turn into a beast 5+ times the size of his human body. Now that Haki seems to determine a person's strength more than anything - doesn't it make Zoan that more valuable?
And finally, the Paramecia class. My personal favorite, because of it's diversity. There's powers that seem at first pretty much useless (think Luffy before he mastered the ability), and there's powers that are really hard to find a good strategy against. Though that's also part of the weakness; once you know how a Paramecia works, you can come up with a good plan against it. Like knocking out Sugar to break the spell. In a way it limits the user's range of techniques, all Miss Valentine could do for example was crush people to death with her weight-shifting ability.
Though it also means physically 'weak' characters can become pretty strong fighters - Robin doesn't possess superhuman strength but with her ability she can take on a number of physically stronger fighters at the same time quite easily. The range of different Paramecia is quite stunning, from Magellan's poison to Basil Hawkins' voodoo dolls to Law's Ope Ope no Mi, or Capone Bege's obscure harboring his personal army in his body ability, there seems to be an endless amount of possibilites.
And that brings us back to the question I asked in the beginning, which you probably forgot by now, so allow me to pose it again. Which devil fruit powers can you come up with? And which of the three classes do you see ahead of the other two in terms of potential benefit to the user in battle?
In one of the previous blog posts we've been speculating how the series Naruto could go on after Madara is defeated. That got me thinking about all kinds of possibilities and one that I didn't mention now 'cause I figured it'd be worth its own post, is a re-imagining of the story. Now, I know it won't happen, they won't do it. But still, it's a fun discussion to have.
How would scenario X have went if it wasn't (group) Y who fought Z but (group) Q. There's just so many situations where we got the match-ups we got, and it could've turned out completely differently if somebody else had 'went'. Personally I enjoy that idea most when it comes to the Chunin-exams, arguably my favorite part of the series - back then I was *really* into it. What if Sasuke had fought Gaara earlier? What if Naruto would have had to fight Hinata?
Though you can also apply it to the likes of Akatsuki - would Asuma have died if, say, Kakashi was there? Or some other specialized Ninja who would've had that one ability that would've flipped the tides? What ability would that have been? The kage mane technique was already plenty useful. Or was it merely a matter of having insufficient intel?
What if Sasuke would've been the one to fight Pain, at a stage in the series where it would've been possible. What if Itachi decided to spend the last days of his life fighting Madara, would he have had the chance to stop the plan in its motion, not allowing Madara to gain the strength he has now? Couldn't he have gotten help to achieve that?
Which match-ups that never happened would you have really enjoyed seeing happening? And how do you think would they have turned out? Let's share some scenarios and have some fun discussing, shall we?
So the secret's out, it's Toriko that we picked up. It all started with a question on facebook I posted - which series would you like us to pick up the most. We received tons of feedback, both on that facebook post and via email. Knowing what the fans want us to do the most, we discussed our options and the staff's favorites, and came to the obvious conclusion - we had to pick up Toriko.
We've all been big fans of the series for a long time; back when we had to drop it we did so with a heavy heart, it was inevitable at the time, as we had difficulties with getting a translator for it and also carried 6 (!) Jump series at the same time, burning out the staff quicker than a wax candle. But now, we're all set up for one more Jump series and can fully dedicate ourselves to it. We got a new, old translator (welcome back, dzydzydino!) and are up to the game this time.
Oh and, the timing could not have been better either. Toriko just came back with the 2nd Act of the manga last week, which is why we decided to do last week's chapter as well. It's definitely worth a re-read if you've read it elsewhere already, I promise you will enjoy the extra effort we put into it during the past couple of days.
Finally, I'm not gonna promise that we'll release this early every week, but we will definitely try and stick to an early Wednesday schedule, so come by next week and until then, enjoy the two chapters! We certainly did!
In this blog post we want to provide an overview of our projects and how things are coming along. This is also to answer all the questions of those asking for specific series, though it won't really answer much, it will let you know why some things are 'late'.
First of all though, I should very briefly explain the different steps involved in scanlation. If you know how the scanlation process works, you can skip this part and move on to the actual list of series below.
Everything begins with getting the RAWs, ie going out to buy the magazines the series are in and scanning them in. We rely on RAW providers for this - in other words, this step is out of our control. We get RAWs as quickly as possible, and the moment we get them, we begin working on them. If we don't have RAWs for a series, we can't do anything but wait, that's all.
As soon as we have them, we send them to the translators. This is also arguably out of our hands; while the translators are part of our team, they are still individuals who are doing this single task. Think of them like goalkeepers in football, they're part of the team yet have a completely different function.
Simultaneously, we begin cleaning the chapters. All series are published in phone-book sized weekly or monthly magazines, printed on paper of a far worse quality than toilet-paper - which is understandable, seeing how the circulation numbers are in the millions. Either way, cleaning up the images of a standard 18 page long chapter takes about 5-7 hours, usually split between 2-3 cleaners.
Another thing that begins as soon as pages are cleaned is redrawing. Redrawing is basically all about erasing Japanese text that was within the panels, on the art. After erasing it, we fill up the blank spots, usually by re-drawing those parts. Small redraws can take 2-5 minutes, really big and annoying ones that cover half a page with really detailed art can take easily a whole day, but we try our best.
One way to make redrawing easier is typesetting. We can only start doing that after we received the translation, naturally, as typesetting means putting the English text on the pages. We take great care to place the text exactly where the Japanese original was, for stylistic reasons but also to cover up big parts of the spots that need redraws. This isn't always easy, as English text goes left to right while Japanese goes top to bottom.
Except for 2-3 series which have a dedicated proofreader, the typesetters also make sure to quality check the chapter, reading what they are putting in the bubbles and looking out for noise or smudges that were missed during cleaning. And with that, the process is complete, the chapter released and updates about it are posted on the website.
Phew, that look longer than expected, although it was an extremely summarized version. Now, on to our current line-up and their status.
One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Übel Blatt, Attack on Titan, UQ Holder, Area D, Claymore and History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi -> We're all caught up on these series and waiting for the next RAWs.
Green Blood, Hajime no Ippo, ReMember, Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth-> For all these series, we're currently waiting for translations.
The Heroic Legend of Arslan -> This series is currently being redrawn. It has very many pages that need redraws and we'd really need 2-3 new, active redrawers who can help out with difficult redraws. Applications are welcome.
Attack On Titan Before The Fall -> We are going to finish the 4th chapter, but will sadly have to drop this great series after. The amount of redraws and difficult to clean pages is too taxing on our already understaffed crew. We may consider picking it back up if we ever find ourselves in a situation where we have plenty of active redrawers.
Dragon Ball SD -> We have decided to drop this one as well. Aside of the redraws, there was also too little interest by both, the staff members and you, the readers, so we decided it be best to let go of it.
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei -> We picked this one up on the request of the leader of the group Mangaholic. He's been part of our staff for quite a while, so we did not mind hosting it (with the intention of giving it some extra publicity and attention). Unfortunately he ran into some private difficulties lately, and we wish him the best to recover from it all and hopefully soon return to get this series back on track.
D.Gray-man, Hunter x Hunter -> As far as Hunter x Hunter is concerned, we're still huge fans and will work on it the moment it returns. As for D.Gray-man, I'm not sure if we would pick it back up again or not, but either way, both series are on hiatus right now and we have no information whatsoever when either will return, unfortunately.
That's all! If you have any further questions about the series I mentioned or if I missed any series, let me know in the comments! But please, do not ask us to pick any other series up.
Oh, on that note - there might be a series that we'll pick up very soon. The feedback we received on facebook the other day was very clear and we had a long discussion following it. I won't give it away right now, so stay tuned to find out more about it!
One Piece has it all; a great cast of characters with insanely creative (devil) powers, an exciting environment with a whole world to discover and a story that is so intriguing, and at times touching, that once you begin reading, you can't put it aside.
One of the things I really like about One Piece is how, occasionally, it feels very familiar on a level that's hard to understand. That is, until you realize how many references it has to the culture us Western fans grew up with - a fact surprisingly many fans whom I spoke to seem completely unaware of.
Most notably there are many references and pointers to fairy tales, particularly the ones collected and written down by the Grimm Brothers. To start off with a rather obscure and less well-known one, we have the tale of 'The Singing Bone' - I don't think I need to say any more, you all know who's meant.
We have a reference to Rapunzel (which yes, I know is heavily influenced by the Persian tale of Rudāba) in Shirahoshi, who has also been locked away in a tower by her father. There are subtle hints at Snow White on two instances as well - one, Alvida's line in the beginning of the series, going 'Who's the most beautiful on all the seas', not unlike Snow White's step-mother asking her mirror the same question. The other one is Doc Q giving away poisoned apples on Jaya.
There are references to Little Red Riding Hood during the Enies Lobby arc; when Jabra (the Wolf Zoan member of the CP9) attempts to lie to Sanji (who introduced himself as 'The Hunter') about being Nico Robin's brother he is shown in his half-wolf form with Robin in a red-hooded cloak. Finally, there are also several instances where Oda mentions the Town Musicians of Bremen, including the cover of chapter 34 and a color spread in chapter 604.
There are references to other, non-Grimm fairy tales as well, for example Jack and the Beanstalk in the Skypiea Arc, or Pinocchio (Usopp) but also a bunch of biblical stories, like Noah's Ark (even named 'Noah' in the series) or the story of Jonah who supposedly lived in a whale (he'd have certainly had space in Laboon - a real whale, not so much...).
Other allusions to Western culture, media or even locations include Jurassic Park (Little Garden Arc), Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Abominable Snowman (both Chopper), Santa Claus (Dr Kureha coming down from the mountain on a sleigh), Venice (anyone who's been there can confirm that Water Seven is based on it), Captain Hook (Crocodile), Zorro (Zoro), Melville's novel Moby Dick (the name of Whitebeard's ship) and probably many more.
Those are all the ones I could think of. Can you think of any more? Did you notice them while reading or watching the anime? Most of them are pretty straight-forward, but Oda manages to give them such a twist that they can be easy to miss. And what I've been thinking most about while writing up the above - which references are yet to come? Which famous fairy tales are left?
Update: Wow, some of the comparisons you guys brought up are pretty cool. Especially Eric Ester Burgos, big shout out to you man, I really enjoyed your post and everyone interested in cultural references should definitely click his name and go read it.
For the last couple of months the series Naruto feels like it's coming to an end - at least to me it does, and I'm sure to many of you as well. One of the two main antagonists, Obito, has already been turned into a good guy again and now there's only really Madara left to defeat for everybody to be happy and live in peace (and boredom).
I know the series has a lot of haters, as does anything or anybody who's remotely popular or 'mainstream' in this world, but I'm actually still a fan. I admit, it's not as exciting as it once used to be (think Chunin exam, or fighting Akatsuki, in particular Hidan -> best fight ever) but it's still a great series.
Now, I have mixed feelings on this subject. If you have read or watched Bakuman, you'll know what I mean immediately... the question I'm posing is - what should be done with a series when it's reaching its end? Jump tends to stretch out series as long as possible when they're popular - think Dragon Ball, it could've ended after the 3rd Tenkaichi Budokai, or after Freeza, or after Cell, or... instead, it got milked so much they even created DBGT, without Toriyama even wanting to write it, all he did was watch over the anime to make sure they don't butcher it.
At least, that's one way of looking at it. I was quite young when I watched Dragon Ball and DBZ, so it never felt like it was being stretched out to me. I just wanted to continue watching this awesome series I really liked; as long as some of the main characters were in it, I was happy. Even then I thought DBGT was a bit lame, but SSJ4 easily made up for it.
What I'm trying to say is - I don't mind all that much when the life-cycle of a series gets prolonged. For those of you who are purists, you can stop reading Bleach after Aizen's defeat and you have a series with a 'good' ending. Everybody else can enjoy seeing their favorite manga characters for another couple years run in a weekly magazine, it's that simple.
So, going back to Naruto, I've been thinking for a while of possible ways for the series to keep going after they defeat Madara.
- For one, there's still Oro - and he's been acting weirdly compliant and awfully nice lately, and I don't quite buy the nice guy act yet. Turning him into the main antagonist may be a little lame though, since he's already held that position for a while and he'd need some serious power-ups, too. (like swallowing up Madara and evolving... lots of training arcs and defeating his minions to be followed)
- Then there's the classic possibility - a long time skip. Say, 15-20 years. The current generation's kids would take over and new, less powerful villains could be established. I know, it's not idea. I'd hate for the current main guys to have to make room for a new bunch of people - though I'd argue Dragon Ball didn't do too badly with this, but Naruto has a far bigger amount of people in it. It'd definitely be difficult, and I can well imagine most of you not liking this at all.
- The last possibility I have on my mind right now is another 'common enemy' type of character emerging. When you look at a map of the Naruto universe you'll notice that it doesn't cover all that much. The main countries seem to be positioned in one corner of the world, so there's still many other countries out there that might decide on attacking the Ninja-countries. Depending on what technologies those guys use, it could give the series Steampunk elements, or Ninjas vs Vikings, or...
Yeah I know, that last one doesn't sound too great. So! What do you think? Is the series best done justice by ending it after defeating this last bad guy and some touching scenes afterwards? Or would you rather it continued for another 10 years, alongside One Piece? What kind of story would you go with to make prolonging it plausible? My personal favorite would probably be a time skip, seeing the current main cast as grown ups and Naruto as Hokage for a few more years would definitely satisfy my inner fanboy the most. How about you?